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General Discussion Thread (1998-2002) Scene ISO Releases

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One thing is for sure, NFOs and SFVs are NEVER 1:1 to what was originally created by the members of the group, which did that certain release. They always come from at least third hand.
That's what I already figured out while downloading up to 200 releases. Only the RAR's can be preserved 100%.
Take this for example, original NFO certainly had those vertical lines aligned, on the right under the Deviance logo:
https://www.srrdb.com/release/details/C ... R-DEViANCE

I'm not looking for 1:1 NFO's, I just don't like empty lines and that "MisterX & MisterY.:.:.. \/ // | ||/| ||::.::.:::.Site Scripts V2.0" at the end, like in my The_Sims_House_Party_Expansion_Pack-FLT.
srrDB doesn't have these NFO's, so theirs are good enough for me.

And then there's also an option for collecting complete sfv's, but all of this will probably be to much for me.

I always wondered, how come the new releases (I don't know, 2008+, I know HL2 + Episodes were also affected) don't have problems with NFO's and all have clean and not raped sfv's.
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GrimReaper wrote: 22 Feb 2019, 19:27 I always wondered, how come the new releases (I don't know, 2008+, I know HL2 + Episodes were also affected) don't have problems with NFO's and all have clean and not raped sfv's.
My understanding:
1. Back then moving releases between Linux and Windows OS's text editors caused the gaps in the NFO files.
2. Original FTP servers were built from scratch with built in scripts to check uploads to them e.g. CRC checks against SFV files. SFV's were "tagged" with this additional, albeit unneccesary, information.
3. Later release (?2008+) were distributed on generic FTP servers - thus no script SFV checks. How are releases distributed these days, as in, the source?
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That makes sense.
Can you try to fix this one for me:
https://www75.zippyshare.com/v/43bUSAeT/file.html

It should look like the one in the srrDB link above. That is without empty lines, but not completely without, where there's 2, there should remain one. For now, I only managed to delete all empty lines.
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God damnit, why are we discussing this info only through PMs. This is just gold.
Flight_Unlimited_3-FLT

me:
ONLY? Are you kidding me, that's the:

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U: Anonymous
D: 2017-03-17 17:01:18
Games uploaded this day and at 17:01 are long thought to be lost. This one maybe not completely lost, but it has to be very very rare.

twkolor:
its just i think FLT always rared their releases in .001 .002 .003 archives
and Flight_Unlimited_3-FLT is having .r01 .r02 .r03... doesnt seem like original FLT but i might be wrong

me:
But I think it is.
Look at the NFO. First on the right, because there are no mistakes. Everything checks out.
On left, there are plenty of mistakes, it should be:
26 x 20 MB
37 x 20 MB
33 x 20 MB

First I thought it's a repack when I looked left, but then I saw that 32 instead of 33 and I quickly figured they were being very sloppy here. I don't even think it's the first time, I would have to look at some of their other NFOs.
Another strange thing, 25MB and 15MB parts in the same release, who even does that?
And another thing to keep in mind, 2017-03-17 are all very rare releases, and I'm 100% sure they're all original. There are NO repacks in 2017-03-17.

I'm already 99% sure it's original, but give me the files and I'll confirm it 100%.

EDIT:
After looking at the actual release, I believe it is original.

I guess these are also mistakes in the NFO, because they used .r24 and not .024:

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FLT-FU3I1.RAR ->.024
FLT-FU3S1.RAR ->.035
FLT-FU3S2.RAR ->.031
And I found two more typos proving it:

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Flight Unlimted 3

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sencary disk
Someone was in a real hurry here. So I wouldn't trust anything that is written in this NFO, except how many RAR files there are. And the names also match.


I will upload these today:
Descent_Freespace_2-FLT
F1.2001-DEViANCE
Flight_Unlimited_3-FLT
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twkolor wrote: 01 Mar 2019, 22:16 https://www.srrdb.com/release/details/R ... Tycoon-FLT
nfo and sfv are raped
These are not raped. Someone just uses a shitty, thirdie sfv checker, which leaves its mark (in this case) in form of the last three lines. Now copy these lines and paste here, and you'll see what it means.

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;Q2-1c5ac867820cb9c
;Q2-OCjP1eHJxQE=
;Q2-/+A=

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Installation signature: 1c5ac867820cb9c (QuickSFV 1 and 2)
Installation date: 2005-08-29T10:43:19.093Z (from signature)
Verification date last verified: 2005-10-05T19:15:36.259Z
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Chances are, multi-disc releases were done by more than one member. It would be easier and faster to separately pack and upload three ISOs at the same time, than doing it one after another. Maybe that's the case here. Each sfv is different. So it either means they are done by 3 different folks (read 3 different sfv tools) or by 3 different sites (3 different scripts). I'm still puzzled, because for some one-disc releases there are different sfvs. See Backyard.Hockey-MaXXiM or THE.SETTLERS.4.FINAL.REPACK-DEViANCE.

Grammar mistakes happen all the time - and not only in NFOs. You'll never know if someone didn't pay attention and typed wrong amount of rars in the nfo. But I think FLT once released a complete NFO pack in their alleged 1000th release (or rather 1001, because in the 500th release, they accidentally skipped one release, so it already was 501st not 500th release :D), which was Total_War_Shogun_2_READNFO-FLT. From that NFO pack, you can see this:
┌──── In Their 12th Year Of Glory, FairLight Released ────┐ ┌┌───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ ┌┘ Flight Unlimted 3 (c) EA ┌┘ └───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘┘ : Supplied by: [DV] Dark Vengeance : : Release Date: September 15th, 1999 : │ Cracked by: - │ │ Game Type: Flight Sim │ │ Packaged by: [DV] Dark Vengeance │ │ Image Format: BIN/CUE │ ├────────────── CD1 ──────────────────┤ ├────────────────────────────────────┤ │ Data Tracks: 1 │ │ Audio Tracks: 0 │ │ Number of archives: 26 x 25 MB │ │ Archive Name: FLT-FU3I1.RAR ->.024 │ ├────────────── CD2 ──────────────────┤ ├────────────────────────────────────┤ │ Data Tracks: 1 │ │ Audio Tracks: 0 │ │ Number of archives: 37 x 15 MB │ │ Archive Name: FLT-FU3S1.RAR ->.035 │ │ ───────────── CD3 -─────────────────┘ └─────────────────────────-─-────────│ │ Data Tracks: 1 │ │ Audio Tracks: 0 │ │ ISO Size: 582 MB │ │ Protecion Type: None │ │ Number of archives: 32 x 15 MB │ │ Archive Name: FLT-FU3S2.RAR ->.031 │ │ ────────────────────────────────────┘ └─────────────────────────────────── │ │ Best System Requirements: Pentium 266 64 MB RAM 1GIG Hard Sapce │ │ Supports: N/A │ └────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘
So it rather should be 1337. And also I agree that most likely Mr. 2017-03-17/18's additions to srrdb are 100% genuine.

From what still exists, I think maybe only the guys from EViLiSO were using .rNN naming format in their releases. If that's true, then it means that Need.For.Speed.High.Stakes-EViLISO is a repack. And now it seems like not so long ago someone posted a complete sfv... and as I previously thought, it's a repack. The same goes for Fallout.2-EViLISO. No doubt about it. :(
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Need.For.Speed.High.Stakes-EViLISO
Red SFVs sure prove it's a repack. But it's quite well hidden, even date modifying, same as with DRIVER-DVNiSO. I don't think it's possible to know it's a repack without the SFV.
I guess this is the beginning of my collecting of complete SFVs, for now I have Driver and NFS4.

Sports.Car.GT-EViLiSO
Also lost?
At least release on srrDB checks out, evl-scgt.r00.
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Looking at one release with an "r" as in repack at the end of the archives names, I thought of the fastest way to check for repacks, search for:

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*r.r00
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RACING.SIMULATION.3-DEViANCE uploaded to REQ
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I need to make a conclusion if this one is lost or not:
Heretic_2-DVNiSO

kkkkk, you once told me through PM there's also some from 2018 from that 2017-03-17/18 guy. I think you also said 2018-10-23 and 24, is that true?
If that is so, I will just forget about this one.
EDIT 7th March 2019: You said 2018-10-17 and 2018-10-18. I can only find two FLT 2018-10-18.

My belief is that this guy simply faked all of this. I mean, SFVs are not lost and all the data is in the SFV and he could have just faked the bin/cue name, size and hash. I don't believe he had these releases in the first place.
If all of this is true, I'm left without rare releases to look for.

I also checked 2017-03-17 releases which are still available with original RARs, we had problems finding the first 3:

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FIFA.2000-DEViANCE
Flight_Unlimited_3-FLT
Offical_Formula_One_Racing-FLT
Planescape_Torment-FLT
Rally_Championship-FLT
Sid_Meiers_Alpha_Centauri-FLT

EDIT 6th April 2019
I found some more lost ones from October 2018.

2018-10-17
Grand.Theft.Auto.San.Andreas.DVDRip.READNFO-SPiTFiRE

2018-10-20
World.Of.Warcraft.Read.NFO.European.Working-GGS

2018-10-22
Starcraft.Broodwar.Internal.ISO-iND

2018-10-23
Warcraft.II.Battle.Net.Edition-iNTERGANG

2018-10-24
COMMAND.AND.CONQUER.THE.FIRST.DECADE.DVD9-GuN
Just.Cause.DVD5-SPiTFiRE
The.Curse.Of.Monkey.Island.1997-GUYBRUSH

2018-10-25
Postal.Plus.iNTERNAL-JEDiDOX
RollerCoaster.Tycoon.Corkscrew.Follies.Expansion-LEGOan
World.of.Warcraft.The.Burning.Crusade.CloneCD.iNTERNAL-SDiSO

2018-10-28
StarCraft.2.BETA.build.13891-iND


ADDED 14th April 2019
2018-10-12
Pro.Evolution.Soccer.4.DVDRip-RELOADED
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I now checked every release of the 9 most known groups, most were posted on 2017-03-17, 51 of them. Other dates are insignificant, first numbers are lost ones, second numbers are available ones:

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2017-03-17	51	28
2017-03-18	1	26
2018-10-23	2	0	(Heretic_2-DVNiSO) (Shadow.Company-DVNiSO)
2018-10-20	2	0	(Turok_2_Seeds_Of_Evil-CiFE *) (Viper_Racing-CiFE)
2018-10-18	1	1	(Silkolene_Honda_Motocross_GP-FLT)
2018-10-12	1	0	(MYST.V.END.OF.AGES.CD.VERSION-DEViANCE)
2018-10-09	1	0	(Crime.Life.Gang.Wars.DVDRip-DVNiSO)
2018-01-09	1	0	(HOMEWORLD.REPACK-DVNiSO)
2017-02-21	1	0	(Blaze_and_Blade-PDMiSO) (search with Other)
2017-02-15	2	6	(F22_Lightning_3-PDMiSO and CLOSE.COMBAT.3-DVNiSO) (search with Other and PC)
2014-01-30	1	2	(Sports.Car.GT-EViLiSO)
2014-01-29	1	7	(Extreme.WaterSports-EViLiSO)
* don't have it as of 2020-02-13

Links:
DVNiSO 1
DVNiSO 2
DEViANCE 1
DEViANCE 2
FLT 1
FLT 2
FLT 3
FLT 4
CiFE 1
CiFE 2
RiSCiSO
EViLiSO
PSG
PDMiSO
PARADiGM


DVNiSO
BFRIS.Zero.Gravity.Fighter.Combat-DVNiSO
Bubble.Bobble.Hero.2-DVNiSO
CLOSE.COMBAT.3-DVNiSO
Crime.Life.Gang.Wars.DVDRip-DVNiSO
Elite_Darts-DVNiSO
Emergency.Room.2-DVNiSO
Extreme.Tennis-DVNiSO
Fantasy.Football.Draft.Kit.99-DVNiSO
GP500-DVNiSO
Heretic_2-DVNiSO
HOMEWORLD.REPACK-DVNiSO
Links.LS.Extreme-DVNiSO
MS.Baseball.2000-DVNiSO
Nascar.Revolution-DVNiSO
NBA.Inside.Drive.2000-DVNiSO
NFL.FEVER.2000-DVNiSO
POOL.SHARK-DVNiSO
Railroad.Tycoon.2.The.Second.Century-DVNiSO
Return.To.Na.Pali.Unreal.Addon-DVNiSO
Rollcage-DVNiSO
Scattegories-DVNiSO
Shadow.Company-DVNiSO
SNOWMOBILE.RACING.CHAMPIONSHIP.2000-DVNiSO
SPACE.INVADERS-DVNiSO
STAR.TREK.STAR.FLEET.COMMAND-DVNiSO
Superbike.World.Championship-DVNiSO
Tellurian_Defense-DVNiSO

DEViANCE
LiONEL.TRANS.CON-DEViANCE
MYST.V.END.OF.AGES.CD.VERSION-DEViANCE
TOTAL.SOCCER.2000-DEViANCE

FLT
AMA_Superbike-FLT
Army_Men_3-FLT
Formula1_99-FLT
Missile_Command-FLT
Rainbow_Six_Eagle_Watch-FLT
Silkolene_Honda_Motocross_GP-FLT
Thrust_Twist_N_Turn-FLT
Trickstyle_REPACK-FLT

CiFE
Beavis_And_Butthead_Do_U-CiFE
Damage_Incorporat-CiFE
Extreme.BullRider-CiFE
Extreme_G2-CiFE
Heroes_Of_Might_And_Magic_3-CiFE
Machines-CiFE
Nascar.Craftman.Truck.Racing-CiFE
Natural_Fawn_Killers-CiFE
Sega_Smash_Pack-CIFE
Solitaire.Antics.Deluxe-CiFE
The_Triangle_Flight_Simulator98_addon-CiFE
Total_Annihilation_Kingdoms-CiFE
Trophy_Buck-CiFE
Turok_2_Seeds_Of_Evil-CiFE
Viper_Racing-CiFE

RiSCiSO
Bird.Hunter.Upland-RiSCiSO
Midtown.Madness-RiSCiSO

EViLISO
Extreme.WaterSports-EViLiSO
Fallout.2-EViLISO (only a repack exists)
Need.For.Speed.High.Stakes-EViLISO (only a repack exists)
Sports.Car.GT-EViLiSO
Triple.Play.2000.REPACK-EViLISO

PSG
Atlantis_II-PSG
Edgar_Torronteras_Extreme_Biker-PSG

PDMiSO
Blaze_and_Blade-PDMiSO
F22_Lightning_3-PDMiSO
The_Creed-PDMiSO

PARADIGM
Midtown_Madness_ISO-PARADIGM

ISOWorld
Starfleet.Command.Bonus.CD-ISOWorld

Note:
I didn't add GORKY.17-DVNiSO, looking at the NFO, GORKY.17-DEVIANCE should be right.
I also didn't add HOMEWORLD.REPACK-DEViANCE, it's just a repack of HOMEWORLD.REPACK-DVNiSO.


There are 66 of the above 67 which aren't on this list:

Silkolene_Honda_Motocross_GP-FLT is already on the list.


I also updated my list which is more practical, only 159 of the most known games:
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4 different names for the same release, will be a hard choice to make:
AGE.OF.EMPIRES.2-DEViANCE
AGE.OF.EMPIRES.2.THE.AGE.OF.KINGS-DVNiSO
Ages.Of.Empires.2.The.Age.Of.Kings-DVNiSO
Ages.Of.Empires.2.Fully.Working-DVNiSO

This one has different RAR names, aoe2k1.rar instead of dvn-aoe2.rar, in similar fashion to AGE.OF.EMPIRES.II.THE.CONQUERORS-DEViANCE aoe2kx1.rar, so it shouldn't be correct:
AGE.OF.EMPIRES.II.AGE.OF.KINGS-DEViANCE

NFO name is dvniso.nfo, so first one is certainly not correct.

For other 3, if I look in the NFO, it says this:
It seems that FAiRLiGHT, managed to fuck up this release up. If you take a loot at the info in regards to their release and our release, you will notice that our audio trak size is appox. 25 minutes longer than theirs. Why you ask? There is a slight pause in the audio track that contains the background music for the game for different scenes. Their audio track dies out durning one of these such pauses.
So I will have to go with:
Ages.Of.Empires.2.Fully.Working-DVNiSO
Although I don't like that Ages.
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One thing that always bothered me in this case is date. NFO and bin/cue says 1999-09-27. But in sfv, the first line is:
; Generated by WIN-SFV32 v1.0a on 1999-08-05 at 19:40.52
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It's the same with Quake 3, I checked every 1998-1999 release on srrDB today:
https://www.srrdb.com/release/details/Quake_3_Arena-FLT
I wanted to replace SFVs with complete ones, but for this reason of wrong date, I left this one out.
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Another newly found repacks with date modifying, proofs are on srrDB:
GRIM.FANDANGO-DVNiSO
GRIM.FANDANGO-DVNiSO
-BIN date 1998-10-29, same as in the NFO
-look at the JPG for proof

Panzer_General_3D-CiFE
Panzer_General_3D-CiFE
-BIN date 1999-09-23, same as in the NFO
-look at the original SFV for proof


Other repacks with bin/cue date same as in the NFO:
Fallout.2-EViLISO - 1998-10-29, srrDB link, for proof you can see the SFV for Need.For.Speed.High.Stakes-EViLISO - RAR names should be .r01 instead of .001, found by kkkkk on 3rd March
Need.For.Speed.High.Stakes-EViLISO - 1999-05-27, original SFV for proof is in red, found by kkkkk on 3rd March
Championship_Manager_3-FLT - 1999-03-25, original SFV for proof, found by me on 10th March as I tried to SFV my RARs with srrDB's SFV


And all the previous ones I already found in February:
Populous.The.Beginning-PDMiSO
POPULOUS.3.THE.BEGINNING-PARADiGM
Populous_3_The_Beginning-PDMiSO_REPACK
-BIN date 1998-11-04, same as in the NFO
Here is the original SFV for proof:
https://www.srrdb.com/release/details/P ... ing-PDMiSO

Need_for_Speed_III_Hot_Pursuit-PDMiSO
Need.For.Speed.Hot.Pursuit-PARADiGM
-BIN date 1998-10-09, same as in the NFO
original SFV for proof

Heretic_2-DVNiSO
Heretic.2-DVNiSO
-BIN date 1998-11-23, date in the NFO is 1998-11-24
original SFV for proof

Starcraft_Brood_War-CiFE - ORIGINAL STILL EXISTS
Starcraft_Brood_War-CiFE___repacked
-BIN date 1998-12-13, original one has 1998-12-19, date in the NFO is 1998-12-18
original release

DRIVER-DVNiSO - ORIGINAL STILL EXISTS
DRIVER-DVNiSO
-BIN date 1999-09-27 15:16, original one has 1999-09-27 04:21, date in the NFO is 1999-09-27
-orange SFVs are for the original release


ADDED 18th March 2019
kkkkk found another repack with the same bin/cue date as in the NFO - 1999-05-18, original SFV was posted today:
Star_Wars_The_Phantom_Menace-FLT
Star_Wars_The_Phantom_Menace-FLT
Repack has the same BIN hash. Only thing strange is the CUE size, it should be 72 bytes, repack also has 72 bytes, but the one on srrDB has 88 bytes. It's 73 bytes if the BIN file has standard 7 letters, but this one has 6 - flt-pm.bin.

Another one:
Fifa_99_ISO-PARADiGM
Fifa_99_ISO-PARADiGM
-BIN date 1998-11-08, same as in the NFO
-RAR names pdm-fifa99.r00, groups first started using group tag in filenames in 1999


ADDED 13th April 2019
Baldurs_Gate_Tales_of_the_Sword_Coast-FLT - ORIGINAL STILL EXISTS
Baldurs_Gate_Tales_of_the_Sword_Coast-FLT
-BIN date 1999-05-06 11:54, original one has 1999-05-06 14:05, date in the NFO is 1999-05-06
-BIN name is flt-bgts.bin instead of sword.bin


ADDED 14th April 2019
Star_Wars_Episode_I_Pod_Racer-FLT - ORIGINAL STILL EXISTS (named Star_Wars_Racer-FLT)
Star_Wars_Racer-FLT
-BIN date 1999-05-18 18:35, original one has 1999-05-18 12:48, date in the NFO is 1999-05-18
-BIN name is FLT-STRA.BIN instead of SW-RACER.BIN


List of all of these 15 repacks:

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Baldurs_Gate_Tales_of_the_Sword_Coast-FLT
Championship_Manager_3-FLT
DRIVER-DVNiSO
Fallout.2-EViLISO
Fifa_99_ISO-PARADiGM
GRIM.FANDANGO-DVNiSO
HERETIC.2-DVNiSO
Need_for_Speed_III_Hot_Pursuit-PDMiSO
Need.For.Speed.High.Stakes-EViLISO
Panzer_General_3D-CiFE
POPULOUS.3.THE.BEGINNING-PARADiGM
Star_Wars_Episode_I_Pod_Racer-FLT (original Star_Wars_Racer-FLT)
Star_Wars_The_Phantom_Menace-FLT
Starcraft_Brood_War-CiFE
Starcraft-CiFE (CiFE release didn't even exist, only KALISTO)
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For these there are 2 folder names on srrDB.

Blood_II_The_Chosen-FLT - PreDB.me, pre.corrupt-net.org, PreDB.org and xREL have this name
Blood2_Final-FLT - not on PreDB.me, pre.corrupt-net.org, PreDB.org and xREL; there is no mention of Final in the NFO
my choice:
Blood_II_The_Chosen-FLT
EDIT 10th August 2019: it is Blood2_Final-FLT


THIEF.THE.DARK.PROJECT-DVNiSO - PreDB.me, pre.corrupt-net.org, PreDB.org and xREL have the name Thief.the.dark.project-dvniso
Thief-The_Dark_Project-DVNiSO - xREL has this name
3 sites, PreDB.me, pre.corrupt-net.org and PreDB.org have the name Thief.The.Dark.Project-DEViANCE. The NFO name is dvniso.nfo and there is also a DVNiSO logo in the NFO, so I don't like it.
And DVNiSO usually uses all caps and dots instead of underscores. Although it has to be said that they didn't yet set the uppercase/lowercase standard in 1999, so it's all just a guess.
my choice:
THIEF.THE.DARK.PROJECT-DVNiSO


GORKY.17-DVNiSO - not on PreDB.me, pre.corrupt-net.org, PreDB.org and xREL
GORKY.17-DEVIANCE (with an uppercase I) - PreDB.me, pre.corrupt-net.org and PreDB.org have the name GORKY.17-DEViANCE (with a lowercase i), it's not on xREL, NFO name is deviance.nfo
my choice:
GORKY.17-DEViANCE
EDIT 10th August 2019: it is GORKY.17-DEVIANCE


Gunman_Chronicles_REPACK-Razor1911 - date on PreDB.me is 2000-Nov-20, date on xREL is 20. Nov 2000, date in the NFO is 21 November 2000
Gunman_Chronicles_GOOD_BIN_REPACK-Razor1911 - date on PreDB.me is 2000-Oct-31, date on xREL is 1. Nov 2000, date in the NFO is 21 November 2000
my choice:
Gunman_Chronicles_REPACK-Razor1911
EDIT 10th August 2019: it is Gunman_Chronicles_GOOD_BIN_REPACK-Razor1911


The_War_Engine-Razor1911 - PreDB.me and PreDB.org have this name
The.War.Engine-Razor1911 - not on PreDB.me, pre.corrupt-net.org, PreDB.org and xREL
my choice:
The_War_Engine-Razor1911


SETTLERS.IV.MISSION.PACK-DEViANCE - date on PreDB.me is 2001-Nov-21, date on xREL is 22. Nov 2001, the date in the NFO is 11/2001
THE.SETTLERS.4.MISSION.PACK-DEViANCE - date on PreDB.me is 2001-Mar-30, date in the NFO is 11/2001
my choice:
SETTLERS.IV.MISSION.PACK-DEViANCE


I'm still not happy with Ages.Of.Empires.2.Fully.Working-DVNiSO. I like the Fully working because it tells you it's a proper of FLT.
Most sites, pre.corrupt-net.org, PreDB.org and xREL have the name AGES.OF.EMPIRES.2.FULLY.WORKING-DVNiSO.
my choice:
AGES.OF.EMPIRES.2.FULLY.WORKING-DVNiSO


And I see Conquerors also has 2 names:
AGE.OF.EMPIRES.2.THE.CONQUERORS-DEViANCE
AGE.OF.EMPIRES.II.THE.CONQUERORS-DEViANCE
xREL only has the first name and on pre.corrupt-net.org the second name has a date 2006-07-05, so I will just leave it like it is:
AGE.OF.EMPIRES.2.THE.CONQUERORS-DEViANCE


ADDED 6th April 2019 - 3x Aliens versus Predator

Alien_VS_Predator-FLT - this name is on srrDB and xREL
Alien_vs_Predator-FLT - this name is on PreDB.me, pre.corrupt-net.org and PreDB.org
my choice:
Alien_vs_Predator-FLT
EDIT 25th July 2019: It's a repack anyway, correct release name is Aliens_Versus_Predators-FLT.


Alien_vs_Predator_Gold-FLT - this name is on srrDB and xREL
Alien_VS_Predator_Gold-FLT - this name is on PreDB.me, pre.corrupt-net.org and PreDB.org
Aliens_vs_Predator_Gold_Edition-FLT - date on PreDB.me is 2004-May-08, date on pre.corrupt-net.org is 2004-05-08, date on PreDB.org is 2004-05-09, date on xREL is 9. Mai 2004, also on srrDB
my choice:
Alien_VS_Predator_Gold-FLT
EDIT 10th August 2019: it is Aliens_vs_Predator_Gold_Edition-FLT


Alien_VS_Predator_2-FLT - this name is on srrDB, PreDB.me, pre.corrupt-net.org, PreDB.org and xREL
Aliens_VS_Predator_2-FLT - this name is also on srrDB, it's not correct
my choice:
Alien_VS_Predator_2-FLT


ADDED 7th April 2019
HMM3_Armageddons_Blade_CRACKED-FLT - this name is on srrDB, date on PreDB.me is 2014-Apr-26, date on pre.corrupt-net.org is 2014-04-26, date on xREL is 24. Aug 2013
HMNM3_Armageddons_Blade_CRACKED-FLT - this name is on PreDB.me, pre.corrupt-net.org and PreDB.org
my choice:
HMNM3_Armageddons_Blade_CRACKED-FLT
EDIT 8th August 2019: it is Heroes_of_Might_and_Magic_3_Armageddons_Blade_CRACKED-FLT


ADDED 17th April 2019
Offical_Formula_1_Racing-FLT
Offical_Formula_One_Racing-FLT - not on PreDB.me, pre.corrupt-net.org, PreDB.org and xREL
my choice:
Offical_Formula_1_Racing-FLT
EDIT 9th August 2019: it is Offical_Formula_One_Racing-FLT


ADDED 30th May 2019
Stunt.GP-FLT / Stunt_GP-FLT
Z2.Steel.Soldiers-FLT / Z_Steel_Soldiers-FLT


ADDED 20th July 2019
1999 - DropMania_ISO-Razor1911 / DropMania_ISO-RAZOR
1999 - NASCAR.LEGENDS-DEViANCE / NASCAR.LEGENDS-DVNiSO
1999 - Trivial.Pursuit.Nascar.Edition-DEViANCE / TRIVIAL.PURSUIT.NASCAR.EDITION-DEViANCE / TRIVIAL.PURSUIT-NASCAR.EDITION-DEViANCE
2000 - Final_Fantasy_VIII-FLT / Final_Fantasy_VIII_FINAL-FLT
2000 - LULA.PINBALL-RAZOR / Lula_Pinball-Razor1911
2001 - THREE.KINGDOMS.FATE.OF.THE.DRAGON-DEViANCE / THREE.KINGDOMS.FATE.OF.THE.DRAGON.FINAL-DEViANCE


ADDED 9th August 2019
2000 - South_Park_Rally-FLT / Southpark.Rally-FLT



IMPROPER NAMES
These 2 have improper names so everyone must decide for himself if he wants to keep the original ones or the proper ones:
Collin.McRae.Rally.Cracked-CiFE -> Colin.McRae.Rally.Cracked-CiFE
AGES.OF.EMPIRES.2.FULLY.WORKING-DVNiSO -> AGE.OF.EMPIRES.2.FULLY.WORKING-DVNiSO

ADDED 20th March 2019
Dues.Ex.Human.Revolution-SKIDROW -> Deus.Ex.Human.Revolution-SKIDROW (they also released Deus.Ex.Human.Revolution.DirFix-SKIDROW)
Runaway.2.The.Deam.Of.The.Turtle.PROPER-ViTALiTY -> Runaway.2.The.Dream.Of.The.Turtle.PROPER-ViTALiTY

ADDED 5th April 2019
Need.for.Speed.Undercoder.CLONEDVD.WORKiNG-0x0008 -> Need.for.Speed.Undercover.CLONEDVD.WORKiNG-0x0008

ADDED 17th April 2019
Offical_Formula_One_Racing-FLT -> Official_Formula_One_Racing-FLT

ADDED 16th June 2019
Medal_of_Honor_Allied_Assaut_Spearhead_Expansion_Pack-FLT -> Medal_of_Honor_Allied_Assault_Spearhead_Expansion_Pack-FLT
DEUX.EX.HUMAN.REVOLUTION.MULTI7-PEACECORPS -> DEUS.EX.HUMAN.REVOLUTION.MULTI7-PEACECORPS (they also released DEUS.EX.HUMAN.REVOLUTION.MULTI7.DIRFIX-PEACECORPS)

ADDED 1st July 2019
Microsoft.Flight.Simulator.X.Accerleration.Expansion-AVENGED -> Microsoft.Flight.Simulator.X.Acceleration.Expansion-AVENGED (they also released Microsoft.Flight.Simulator.X.Acceleration.Expansion.DIRFIX-AVENGED)

ADDED 19th July 2019
Fairy.Odd.Parents.Breakin.Da.Rules-DownLink -> Fairly.Odd.Parents.Breakin.Da.Rules-DownLink

ADDED 19th November 2019
Lejokungen.Tillbaka.Till.Lejonriket.NORDIC-TFTISO -> Lejonkungen.Tillbaka.Till.Lejonriket.NORDIC-TFTISO (they also released Lejonkungen.Tillbaka.Till.Lejonriket.NORDIC.DIRFIX-TFTISO)
Deleted User 6280

General Discussion Thread (1998-2002) Scene ISO Releases

Post by Deleted User 6280 »

Some interesting NFOs when ViTALiTY was on the scene from 2007 to 2010, they really stirred the pot:
Armed.Assault.REAL.PROPER-ViTALiTY
Pirates_Of_The_Caribbean_At_Worlds_End_PROPER-HATRED
Notes.for.Pirates.of.the.Caribbean.At.Worlds.End.READNFO-ViTALiTY
S.T.A.L.K.E.R_Shadow_of_Chernobyl_PROPER-HATRED
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.Shadow.of.Chernobyl.NOTE.FOR.RETARDS.READ.NFO-ViTALiTY
A.Vampyre.Story.READNFO-RELOADED
A.Vampyre.Story.PROPER.READNFO-ViTALiTY
Perry_Rhodan_Real_Proper-Razor1911


I wanted to put the record straight which release is the best, from ViTALiTY or from a rival group, a few months ago and today I finally took the time to look at all the NFOs and make my own conclusions.
Armed_Assault_PROPER_DVD-FLT - Armed.Assault.REAL.PROPER-ViTALiTY (FLT nuke on NFOHump: bad.crack_still.morph.to.bird_get.ViTALiTY.real_proper, nuke on PreDB: wtf.PROCYON.folder.inside)
BioShock-FLT - BioShock-ViTALiTY (FLT's crack wasn't that good, I guess you don't need a PROPER mark if you release it 10 months later)
Pirates.of.the.Caribbean.At.Worlds.End-ViTALiTY - Pirates_Of_The_Caribbean_At_Worlds_End_PROPER-HATRED (HATRED nuke on PreDB: invalid.proper_no.issue.with.vitality)
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.Shadow.of.Chernobyl-ViTALiTY - S.T.A.L.K.E.R_Shadow_of_Chernobyl_PROPER-HATRED (HATRED nuke on NFOHump: invalid.proper_ViTALiTY.crack.works.as.required, nuke on PreDB: invalid.proper_ViTALiTY.crack.works.fine)
A.Vampyre.Story-RELOADED - A.Vampyre.Story.PROPER-ViTALiTY (ViTALiTY nuke on NFOHump: invalid.proper_crash.is.a.gamebug.and.not.related.to.crack, on PreDB both are unnuked)
Perry.Rhodan.PROPER-ViTALiTY - Perry_Rhodan_Real_Proper-Razor1911 (none is nuked on NFOHump, Razor 1911 nuke on PreDB: invalid.proper)


But they also made some genuine propers:
Arca.Sim.Racing.2008.REPACK-RELOADED - Arca.Sim.Racing.08.PROPER-ViTALiTY (RELOADED nuke: bad.pack)
City.Life.World.Edition-RELOADED - City.Life.Deluxe.PROPER.READNFO-ViTALiTY (RELOADED nuke: bad.crack_get.ViTALiTY.proper)
Combat.Mission.Shock.Force-RiSiNG - Combat.Mission.Shock.Force.PROPER-ViTALiTY (from NFO: RiSiNG stole our crack)
Frontlines_Fuel_Of_War-Razor1911 - Frontlines.Fuel.of.War.PROPER-ViTALiTY (Razor1911 nuke: bad.crack_get.ViTALiTY.proper)
Ghostbusters.The.Video.Game-RELOADED - Ghostbusters.The.Video.Game.PROPER-ViTALiTY (RELOADED nuke on PreDB: not.final.retail.build_get.ViTALiTY.proper) (although on NFOHump it says nuke for ViTALiTY: bad crack, not removed triggers make game very hard to solve)
Hour.Of.Victory-RELOADED - Hour.of.Victory.PROPER-ViTALiTY (from NFO: The RLD crack still uses the SecuROM protection)
Runaway.2.The.Dream.Of.The.Turtle-RELOADED - Runaway.2.The.Deam.Of.The.Turtle.PROPER-ViTALiTY (RELOADED nuke: bad.crack_get.ViTALiTY.proper)
Silent.Hunter.5.Battle.of.the.Atlantic-SKIDROW - Silent.Hunter.5.Battle.of.the.Atlantic.PROPER.READNFO-ViTALiTY (SKIDROW nuke: bad.crack_not.completely.working_crashes.at.various.points.throughout_get.vitality.proper)
Switchfire-RELOADED - Switchfire.PROPER-ViTALiTY (RELOADED nuke: doesnt.work.on.win2k_get.ViTALiTY.proper)
Test_Drive_Unlimited-HATRED - Test.Drive.Unlimited.PROPER-ViTALiTY (HATRED nuke: bad.crack_cars.10x.more.expensive.profile.and.connection.errors_get.ViTALiTY.proper)
The.Chosen.Well.Of.Souls-iTWINS - The.Chosen.Well.of.Souls.PROPER-ViTALiTY (iTWINS nuke: get.proper.ViTALiTY)
The_Club-Razor1911 (+ The_Club_Crackfix-Razor1911) - The.Club.PROPER-ViTALiTY (Razor1911 + Crackfix is also an option)
The.Sims.Carnival.SnapCity-RELOADED - The.Sims.Carnival.SnapCity.PROPER-ViTALiTY (RELOADED nuke: get.ViTALiTY.proper)
The.Sims.Castaway.Stories-RELOADED - The.Sims.Castaway.Stories.PROPER.READNFO-ViTALiTY (from NFO: The RLD crack still uses the SecuROM protection)
Turok-Razor1911 - Turok.PROPER-ViTALiTY (Razor1911 nuke: get.ViTALiTY.proper)
X-BLADES-POSTMORTEM - X-Blades.PROPER-ViTALiTY (POSTMORTEM nuke: launcher.exe.uncracked_get.ViTALiTY.proper)


And HATRED vs. FLT:
Football_Manager_2008-HATRED
Football_Manager_2008_PROPER-FLT
Football_Manager_2008_PROPER_READ_NFO-FLT

RELOADED vs. FLT:
Metro.Last.Light.Read.Nfo-RELOADED
Metro_Last_Light_STATEMENT_READNFO-FLT
Deleted User 6280

General Discussion Thread (1998-2002) Scene ISO Releases

Post by Deleted User 6280 »

SKIDROW was also interesting:
Assassins_Creed_2_READNFO_ONLY-DORMINE

Assassins.Creed.III.Proper-RELOADED
Assassins.Creed.III.v1.02.Update.Read.Nfo-SKIDROW
Assassins.Creed.III.Update.v1.02.Proper-RELOADED
Assassins.Creed.III.Update.v1.04.Proper-RELOADED
Assassins.Creed.III.The.Tyranny.of.King.Washington.The.Betrayal.DLC.Proper-SKIDROW

Assassins.Creed.Unity.Proper-SKIDROW
Assassins.Creed.Unity.Update.v1.2-RELOADED
Assassins.Creed.Unity.v1.3.Update.Proper-SKIDROW
Assassins.Creed.Unity.v1.4.Update.Proper-SKIDROW
Assassins.Creed.Unity.Dead.Kings.DLC.Proper-SKIDROW
Assassins.Creed.Unity.Update.v1.5.Proper-RELOADED
Assassins.Creed.Unity.v1.5.Update.STATEMENT-SKIDROW

Assassins.Creed.Syndicate.Update.v1.5.READ.NFO-PLAZA
Assassins.Creed.Syndicate.The.Dreadful.Crimes-SKIDROW (Assassins.Creed.Syndicate.The.Dreadful.Crimes.STATEMENT-SKIDROW/skidrow.nfo)

Bulletstorm.Proper-SKIDROW
Bulletstorm_CRACKFIX_READNFO-FLT
Bulletstorm.Proper.Read.Nfo-SKIDROW

Command.and.Conquer.Red.Alert.3.v1.012.Update.READ.NFO-SKIDROW

Crazy.Machines.2.plus.Addon.PROPER.REPACK-SKIDROW

Farm.Expert.2017.PROPER-SKIDROW
Farm.Expert.2017.Update.v1.106.Incl.Crackfix-RELOADED
Farm.Expert.2017.PROPER.FIX-SKIDROW

Just.Cause.2.Proper-SKIDROW
Just.Cause.2.Crackfix-RELOADED
Just.Cause.2.Proper.Read.Nfo-SKIDROW

Prototype.2.Proper-SKIDROW
Prototype_2_STATEMENT_READNFO-FLT

Quantum.Break.STATEMENT-SKIDROW

Serious.Sam.HD.The.First.Encounter.PROPER-SKIDROW

Sine.Mora.EX.PROPER-PLAZA
Sine.Mora.EX.STATEMENT-SKIDROW

Sins.of.a.Solar.Empire.Rebellion.Remastered.PROPER-PLAZA
Sins.of.a.Solar.Empire.Rebellion.Remastered.STATEMENT-SKIDROW

Test.Drive.Ferrari.Racing.Legends.Read.Nfo-SKIDROW

Trials.Fusion.Proper-SKIDROW


There are again problems making the right choice of best release.
Bulletstorm-FLT + Bulletstorm_CRACKFIX_READNFO-FLT - Bulletstorm.Proper-SKIDROW
NFOHump: FLT nuke - get.SKIDROW.proper, FLT CRACKFIX nuke - proper.already.out.GFWL.working.just.fine.on.skidow.release
PreDB: FLT unnuke - get.crackfix, SKIDROW nuke - invalid.proper_cracking.method.used.crashes.on.all.new.G4WL.build, Bulletstorm.Proper.Read.Nfo-SKIDROW nuke - fix.for.nuke
xREL: FLT nuke - get.crackfix, SKIDROW nuke - invalid.proper_old.xlive.dll.used.crashes.on.all.new.steam.clients


I still have to check these:
https://www.srrdb.com/browse/proper/reloaded/1
https://www.srrdb.com/browse/proper/razor1911/1
https://www.srrdb.com/browse/proper/flt/1
https://www.srrdb.com/browse/proper/codex/1
https://www.srrdb.com/browse/proper/cpy/1
https://www.srrdb.com/browse/proper/deviance/1
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General Discussion Thread (1998-2002) Scene ISO Releases

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When faced with a decision "which release is better"
1. if one works and the other doesn't then it's obvious.
2. when both work - this one is opinion based but makes sense - the one that gives better game performance and uses less system resources. For example: Where the game exe is actually cracked and and a loader is not being used. I know some groups are/were known to use loaders instead of actually cracking the exe. I'm not sure how to tell whether a loader is being used or not. Using a loader would slow down the performance and use more system resources of the game compared to a cracked exe
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