Retro scene releases discussion

Deleted User 6280 · Post by **Deleted User 6280** » 12 Aug 2019, 10:54

Was there a scene English ISO release of Cultures (2000/2001) and Cultures 2 (2002)?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultures: ... of_Vinland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultures_ ... _of_Asgard

I only found:
Cultures.GERMAN-DYNASTY (rip)
Cultures.2-DVN (rip)
Cultures.2.GERMAN-Souldrinker

sampson · Post by **sampson** » 12 Aug 2019, 13:01

Cultures-FLT
Cultures_2-OUTCAST

Deleted User 6280 · Post by **Deleted User 6280** » 12 Aug 2019, 13:10

Thanks. Yeah, I see I have Cultures_2-OUTCAST.

samuel44 · Post by **samuel44** » 12 Aug 2019, 13:33

And if you need the NFO for Cultures-FLT, then you can download it here.

It's a collection of NFOs for the first 1000 FLT ISO releases. The filename should be flt-360.nfo

4four5ive · Post by **4four5ive** » 13 Aug 2019, 06:18

GrimReaper wrote: ↑05 Mar 2019, 08:59 2018-10-17
Grand.Theft.Auto.San.Andreas.DVDRip.READNFO-SPiTFiRE

GrimReaper, Do you have this release or is it lost or something?

Deleted User 6280 · Post by **Deleted User 6280** » 13 Aug 2019, 06:23

Lost until someone decides to share it.

4four5ive · Post by **4four5ive** » 15 Aug 2019, 02:44

GrimReaper wrote: ↑13 Aug 2019, 06:23 Lost until someone decides to share it.

That's unfortunate.

Post by **lucas86** » 23 Aug 2019, 06:23

It appears that the Revolt release was named "Revolt_Racing_Out_of_Control-FLT", back in '99.

That's what in xrel.to says..

Deleted User 6280 · Post by **Deleted User 6280** » 23 Aug 2019, 07:59

What do I know, check also these PreDBs:
https://predb.ovh/
https://predb.pw/search.php
http://predb.me/
http://pre.corrupt-net.org/

I think it's not that conclusive.

rigger · Post by **rigger** » 23 Aug 2019, 08:41

Release name: Revolt-FLT
Size: 550.17MB
File names: FLT-RVT.RAR
Number of files: 39
File sizes: 15,000,000 b
Last file size: 6892039 b

Deleted User 6280 · Post by **Deleted User 6280** » 24 Aug 2019, 09:52

rigger, someone said for Hidden_And_Dangerous-FLT and Discworld_Noir_Final-FLT that they don't even match with NFO.
Hidden_And_Dangerous-FLT - 31 x 15 MB, FLT-HD.RAR ->.029, I have flt-hd.rar - flt-hd.r29 - that's actually fine, they make mistakes like this all the time, so as long as 2 out of 3 name/part number info matches, I consider it OK, but if you say it's a repack, then it is
Discworld_Noir_Final-FLT - CD1 - 38 x 15 MB, FLT-D3CD1.RAR ->.036, I have flt-d3cd1.rar - flt-d3cd1.r36 - again, it seems OK
So before you mentioned these 2, we didn't really have enough info to mark them as repacks.

Then I went checking every single one of my 173 left 1999 releases (I skipped all besides FLT, because they don't have enough info) and these didn't check with NFO:
B_Hunter-FLT - 18 x 15 MB, FLT-BH.001 -> 018, I have flt-bht.rar - flt-bht.r16, SFV is with dates, this can't be a mistake in the NFO, 99% it's a repack
Jeff_Gordon_XS_Racing-FLT - 48 x 15 MB, FLT-JGXS.R01->R48, I have flt-jgxs.001 - flt-jgxs.048, SFV is with dates, I don't know, it should still be fine and just a mistake in the NFO
Rage_of_Mages_2_FINAL-FLT - 38 x 15 MB, FLT-ROM2.RAR ->.R36, I have flt-rom2.001 - flt-rom2.037, SFV is with dates, this one doesn't have a single match out of 3, 99% it's a repack

rigger · Post by **rigger** » 24 Aug 2019, 20:30

B_Hunter-FLT, last file should be 5449177 b
Jeff_Gordon_XS_Racing-FLT, last file should be 4954900 b
Rage_of_Mages_2_FINAL-FLT, last file should be 3785108 b

Deleted User 6280 · Post by **Deleted User 6280** » 24 Aug 2019, 21:16

All check out, so we really can't go by NFOs. You said you wanted Rage_of_Mages_2_FINAL-FLT, but it's already on this cloud with the same last part size:

samuel44 · Post by **samuel44** » 26 Aug 2019, 16:45

I had a brief chat with Defacto2.net's (aka 'retro scene release museum') site maintainer about databases of scene releases. And he gave a couple of interesting links to old databases. Some of you might already know this, but I'm just mentioning in case someone else haven't and might find it interesting.

Originally they were called dupe lists but these days they are often called pre lists

Here is a famous dupe list from the 1990s which requires early Windows to run.
https://defacto2.net/f/ad2cd4a

These are MySQL databases from the 2000s. You'll def need some dev-op skills to make any use of these, as you'll need a running MySQL server and then import the SQL data included in these files.
https://defacto2.net/f/b44cdd
https://defacto2.net/f/b9442d

The first link is mainly just RIPs and DOXs for games and apps pred until August 1997. No ISOs as far as I can tell.

The second link is a MySQL database from 1999-2007, although there are a lot of earlier releases prior to 1999.

The third link is also a MySQL database from 2012 by YUNOLEECH

Although I barely know anything about SQL and databases, I was able to quickly setup a portable version of XAMPP to check out what's inside. They are very similar to predb.me.

I had to make the following changes (taken from stackoverflow) to my XAMPP config to be able to view them:

For Xampp version on Windows

Add this line to xampp\phpmyadmin\config.inc.php

$cfg['ExecTimeLimit'] = 6000;

And Change xampp\php\php.ini to

post_max_size = 750M
upload_max_filesize = 750M
max_execution_time = 5000
max_input_time = 5000
memory_limit = 1000M

And change xampp\mysql\bin\my.ini

max_allowed_packet = 200M

After that, you simply import the database file (predb.sql.bz2) and view it using phpMyAdmin.

So basically, now you have your own local copy similar to predb.me

Deleted User 6280 · Post by **Deleted User 6280** » 26 Aug 2019, 19:15

Thanks, I tried this a couple months ago and it didn't load. And I tried maximizing, but I guess not everything.
But I thought it was better than predb.me, even predb.ovh and predb.pw are better.

samuel44 · Post by **samuel44** » 26 Aug 2019, 20:00

Well, the two main reasons it didn't load was that the default settings in XAMPP were set too low. That's why we need to increase the limits
1) The file size limit of the database
2) the 'execution time'

And these two database tables are huuuuge. The first one (which spans until end of 2007) is more than 2.6 million records. It took me about 30 minutes for this database to load. The second one from Yunoleech (2012) has more than 5 million records - took much longer. Try to load the smaller one first. If you're stuck in any particular step, let me know. I used the portable version: xampp-portable-windows-x64-7.3.8-2-VC15.zip

As to whether it was better than predb.me, I don't really know. I was just mentioning predb.me as an example.

sampson · Post by **sampson** » 26 Aug 2019, 20:38

Beware that yunoleech has a lot of renames and wrong dates. Also missing shitload of older releases.

4four5ive · Post by **4four5ive** » 28 Aug 2019, 06:25

Wait is the YUNOLEECH pre database with 5 million releases actual Scene releases? If so, how does one access it? Thanks in advance.

samuel44 · Post by **samuel44** » 29 Aug 2019, 02:13

4four5ive wrote: ↑28 Aug 2019, 06:25 Wait is the YUNOLEECH pre database with 5 million releases actual Scene releases?

It's just a list of scene releases - not the actual scene releases themselves. Might be useful to people as a reference to see if some game had a scene release (either ISO or RIP). Although like sampson says, it may not be fully accurate (kinda like predb.me)

This entire list of scene releases up to a certain date (for example from 1980-01-01 to 2007-12-31) is called a 'pre list' (or 'dupe list' in the old days). And it's stored in the format of a SQL database file (.sql). I mentioned a couple links in my earlier post how to download such a database and view this list. Luckily, you don't have to know MySQL or PHP or such to view and search through this database.

4four5ive · Post by **4four5ive** » 29 Aug 2019, 04:04

samuel44 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2019, 02:13 It's just a list of scene releases - not the actual scene releases themselves. Might be useful to people as a reference to see if some game had a scene release (either ISO or RIP). Although like sampson says, it may not be fully accurate (kinda like predb.me)

This entire list of scene releases up to a certain date (for example from 1980-01-01 to 2007-12-31) is called a 'pre list' (or 'dupe list' in the old days). And it's stored in the format of a SQL database file (.sql). I mentioned a couple links in my earlier post how to download such a database and view this list. Luckily, you don't have to know MySQL or PHP or such to view and search through this database.

Ah okay. I see. Thanks for explaining this to me. Why would this be useful though when sites like https://www.srrdb.com/ and https://predb.pw/ are around?

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